Sunday, September 4, 2011

WHY HINDUS SHOULD READ BIBLE

One of the most commonly used refrain about Hinduism is that it is a tolerant religion. The subtext of this sentence is that Hindus are also tolerant. 

My question is - tolerant to what?
Murder ?
Rape ?
Plunder ?
Crime?
Inhumanity?

If yes, then what did our heroes do?

Like Ram, Krishn, Mata Durga, Maa Kali, Adi Shankaracharya, Rana Pratap, Shivaji, Guru Teg Bahadur, Guru Govind Singh, Veer Savarkar, Chandr Shekhar Azad, Kartar Singh Sarabha, Udham Singh, Neta ji and many more.

Why did they not tolerate everything, including disgrace and humility?

Because there is a clear cut demarcation of what we can or should tolerate and what should not be tolerated.

Toleration is a virtue as long as it is based on reciprocity. The moment it becomes one sided, it leads to destruction. In this case, this misplaced tolerance has programed the Hindu society for self destruction.

This situation has not emerged overnight. It has been deliberately brought and nurtured. Unless the educated Hindus shake off this self destructive argument of tolerating hatred and filth, they are bound to be responsible for destruction of world's oldest civilization at the hands of barbaric creeds. The best way to save themselves and the world from the 'creeds of greed', they have to trace back the hatred to their sources. 

They have to read Bible to understand what it stands for. It has been the reason of destruction and murder of civilizations across the world. Nearer home, a look at the populace of Goa gives us the indication of barbarity that was perpetrated on civilized and peace loving dwellers of the world.

The terms in Bible which can be used to describe Hindus are Heathen, Pagan or Gentile, sometimes masked as 'nation'.

Heathen -
One who adheres to the religion of a people or nation that does not acknowledge the God of Judaism, Christianity, or Islam.
OR
One who is regarded as irreligious, uncivilized, or unenlightened.
On using google translate, Heathen is translated as  बुतपरस्त which is an islamic word for idolaters. In the following translation, I have used the word मूर्तिपूजक for the word heathen.
With this in mind, let us read about the hatred contained in the supposedly 'religious' book. 'Psalms' is one of the books of Bible which contains 150 poems, which are to be sung with some musical instrument. These are being promoted by the name of 'bhajan sankalan' (भजन संकलन), i.e. collection of hymns. This post includes the second poem of this collection. 

Try to imagine a group of children. Singing this 'poem'.

PSALMS 2

1. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
१. मूर्तिपूजक क्यों क्रोध करते हैं और व्यर्थ की कल्पना करते हैं.
2. The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
२.धरती के शासक लॉर्ड के विरुद्ध एकत्रित होकर मंत्रणा करते हैं, और उसके चुने हुए के विरुद्ध भी.
3. Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
३. चलो इनकी संगीत मंडली को बिखरा दें, और इनसे अपना सम्बन्ध तोड़ दें.
4.  He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.
४. जो ऊपर गगन में विराजमान है वो इन पर हंसेगा: लॉर्ड इनका उपहास करेगा.
5. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
५. और वह क्रोधित स्वर में इनसे वार्ता करेगा, इन्हें अपनी अप्रसन्नता से चिढ़ाएगा.
6. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
६. मैंने अपने राजा को जियोन की पवित्र पहाड़ी पर स्थापित किया है.
7.  I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
७. मैं यह निर्णय सुनाऊंगा: लॉर्ड ने मुझ से कहा, तुम मेरे पुत्र हो; आज मैंने तुम्हें जन्म दिया है.
8. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
८. मुझसे मांगोगे तो मैं मूर्तिपूजक तुम्हें दास के रूप में दे दूंगा, और धरती का अधिकतम भाग तुम्हारे अधिकार में होगा.
9. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.
९. तुम उन्हें लोहे की छड़ से मारा करोगे; एक कुम्हार के बर्तन की भांति तुम उनके टुकड़े टुकड़े कर दोगे.
10. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.
१०. इसलिए ओ पृथ्वी के शासको, संभल जाओ:
11. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
११. लॉर्ड से डर कर उसकी सेवा करो, और कांपते हुए प्रसन्न रहो.
12. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. 
१२. यीशु से प्रेम करो, ताकि वो क्रोधित न हो जाए, और तुम रास्ते से हटा दिए जाओ, जब उसका क्रोध लेश मात्र भी जाग जाए. उन्ही को आशीष मिलेगी जो उस पर विश्वास करेंगे.

यदि इस प्रकार की, घृणा से भरपूर कृतियों को, भजन कहा जाएगा तो कितनी अशांति होगी, इसकी कल्पना से ही मन कांप उठता है.
This particular 'God' seems to be pretty angry and possesses an instinct to force people to accept him as God. No wonder the missionaries and evangelists use all fair and foul means for conversions.

The tenets of Christianity seem to be the exact opposite of Vedic philosophy.
संगच्ध्वम संवद्ध्वं सं वो मनांसि जानताम 
देवा भागं यथा पूर्वे सन्जानाना उपासते
(Rigved 10/191/2) 

Move as a unit, have mutual discussions. Let your minds be alike to gain knowledge. As your seer ancestors, accept your part of fortune.

समानी व् आकूतिः समाना हृदयानि वः
 समानमस्तु वो मनो यथा वः सुसहासति
(Rigved 10/191/4)

Humans! Let your will be alike, let there be understanding in your hearts, let your minds be alike so that you live in mutual harmony.

No wonder Christian history is full of annihalation of gentle civilizations and imperialistic expansion, in direct contrast with the Vedic civilization which talks of compassion for, not only all human beings, but all living beings. 
 
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Such blatant hatred is being promoted by the Christian schools under the garb of 'secularism' and 'minority institutions', the twin scourges imposed on truncated India by Christians in connivance with Nehru.

In the interest of humanity and all life forms, it is time we asked ourselves - What should we chose?
Freedom 'from' hating other ideologies or Freedom 'to' hate other people.

If you think that it is just theory, then, for practical application, read about Inquisition.

To learn more about the God of Bible, read - I am the lord, your God.

Thursday, September 1, 2011

I DID NOT COME TO BRING PEACE, BUT A SWORD:JESUS

In his monogram titled 'Jesus Christ: an artifice for aggression', Sh. Sita Ram Goel, one of the most upright historians of our country has proved that Jesus Christ is a creation of Church. No such man ever existed. Sh. Goel had the time, resources and propensity to conduct such research. What is ironic is that it has been done on the basis of findings of various Christian historians. 

Swami Dayanand Sarswati, the founder of Arya Samaj, was not a historian but a spiritual soul. He analyzed the content of Bible in terms of its spritual content, irrespective of its hisorical authenticity. He concluded that the Biblical 'God' was some barbaric man ( जंगली पुरुष). 

Let us see for ourselves. 

Following is the tenth chapter from gospel (New International version) by Matthew, the disciple of Jesus (if there was a Jesus). It will give us some insight into the creed of Christianity.


1. Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
१. यीशु ने अपने १२ चेलों को बुलाया तथा उन्हें बुरी आत्माओं को भगाने का अधिकार देते हुए सभी प्रकार के रोग भगाने को कहा.
2. These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John;
२. उन १२ चेलों के नाम हैं: साइमन (जिसे पीटर भी कहते हैं) तथा उस का भाई एन्द्रियु; ज़ेबेदी का पुत्र जेम्स, तथा उसका भाई जौन; 
3. Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus;
३. फिलिप तथा बार्थोलोमु; थोमस तथा कर वसूलने वाला मैथियु; अल्फौस का पुत्र जेम्स, और थादिउस;
4. Simon the Zealot and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. 
४. कट्टरपंथी साइमन तथा जुडास इस्कारिओत, जिसने उससे छल किया था.
5. These twelve Jesus sent out with the following instructions: “Do not go among the Gentiles or enter any town of the Samaritans.
५. यीशु ने इन १२ को यह निर्देश दिया: "अन्य जाती वालों के अथवा समारिया वासियों के नगर में मत जाना". 
Comment: If God has created all the universe, will he fall to a level to  discriminate between his own creatures?
समीक्षा: इश्वर, जो इस जगत का रचयिता है, सभी प्राणियों को सामान रूप से प्रेम करता है. क्या वो मनुष्यों में भेदभाव करेंगे?
6. Go rather to the lost sheep of Israel. 
६. इस्राइल के भटके हुए भेड़ बकरियों के पास जाना.
Comment: Will the creator use such a language?
समीक्षा: क्या इश्वर ऐसी अभद्र भाषा का प्रयोग करेंगे?
7. As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’ 
७. तुम जा कर यह सन्देश देना: 'स्वर्ग का राज्य आ गया है.'
8. Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give.
८. रोगियों को उपचार दो, जो मर गए हैं, उन्हें जीवित करो, कोढ़ियों को स्वच्छ करो, राक्षसों को भगाओ. तुम्हें प्रचुर मात्र में प्राप्त हुआ है, उसे वितरित करो.
9. “Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts—
९. " अपनी पेटी में कोई स्वर्ण, रजत अथवा कांस्य मत बाँध कर ले जाना -
10. no bag for the journey or extra shirt or sandals or a staff, for the worker is worth his keep. 
१०. यात्रा के लिए अतिरिक्त वस्त्र अथवा जूते मत ले कर चलना, क्योंकि कर्मचारी योग्य होता है.
11. Whatever town or village you enter, search there for some worthy person and stay at their house until you leave. 
११. गाँव अथवा नगर में पहुँचो तो योग्य आसामी को खोज कर उसके यहाँ निवास करो.
12. As you enter the home, give it your greeting. 
१२. घर में प्रवेश करने पर प्रणाम करो.
13. If the home is deserving, let your peace rest on it; if it is not, let your peace return to you. 
१३. यदि घर ठीक लगे तो वहाँ शान्ति रखो; यदि ऐसा न हो, तो शान्ति का आशीर्वाद वापिस ले लो.
14. If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
१४. यदि कोई तुम्हारा स्वागत नहीं करता अथवा तुम्हारी बात नहीं मानता, अपने पाँव की धूल झाड दो और उस घर अथवा नगर को त्याग दो
15. Truly I tell you, it will be more bearable for Sodom and Gomorrah* on the day of judgment than for that town.
१५. निर्णय के दिन (इस्लाम में जिसे क़यामत का दिन कहा है) उस नगर की दुर्दशा सोडोम तथा गोमोराह* से भी भयानक होगी, ये मेरा मत है.
*Sodom and Gomorrah are said to be two towns where sin had increased, therefore, angels of 'God' destroyed them with fire and brimstone.
Comment: Will a 'God of mercy' destroy cities? Will it not be a merciless act for those children, women, men and animals who live in the city and have not committed bad deeds?
* सोडोम तथा गोमोराह नामक नगरों का वर्णन बाइबल में कई स्थानों पर आता है. बाइबल के अनुसार, इन दोनों नगरों को 'गौड' के दूतों ने जला कर नष्ट कर दिया था क्योंकि इन में पाप बढ़ गया था.
समीक्षा: क्या न्यायप्रिय एवं दयालु इश्वर ऐसा करेंगे? क्या यह अबोध बच्चों, महिलायों, पशुओं एवं सज्जन पुरुषों के प्रति क्रूरता एवं अन्याय नहीं है ?
16. “I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves. 
१६. "मैं तुम्हें भेड़ियों में भेड़ बना कर भेज रहा हूँ. इसलिए एक सर्प की भाँती धूर्त और कबूतर की भाँती भोले बन कर रहना.
17. Be on your guard; you will be handed over to the local councils and be flogged in the synagogues. 
१७. सदा चौकन्ने रहना; तुम्हें स्थानीय आधिकारिक समितियों के समक्ष प्रस्तुत किया जाएगा तथा सभाओं में तुम्हें कोड़े मारे जायेंगे.
Comment: Are these disciples on secret agents?
समीक्षा: ये 'गौड' के चेले हैं अथवा गुप्तचर?
18. On my account you will be brought before governors and kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles. 
१८. मेरे कारण तुम्हें राजाओं एवं शासकों के समक्ष उनके तथा अन्यजातियों के लिए साक्षी के रूप में प्रस्तुत किया जाएगा.
19. But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, 
१९. जब तुम्हें बंधक बनाया जायेगा तो ये सोच कर चिंतित मत होना कि तुम्हें क्या कहना है. समय आने पर तुम्हें बता दिया जाएगा.
20. for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you.
२०. क्योंकि उस समय तुम नहीं बोलोगे, तुम्हारे माध्यम से तुम्हारे बाप की आत्मा बोलेगी.
21. “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
२१. "भाई धोखे से भाई की हत्या करेगा, पिता अपने बच्चे की; बच्चे अपने माता पिता के विरोधी होंगे और उनकी हत्या करवा देंगे.
Comment: Is this what the 'God' wants?
समीक्षा: क्या 'गौड' गृहयुद्ध चाहता है ?
22. You will be hated by everyone because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved. 
२२. मेरे कारण तुमसे घृणा की जायेगी, किन्तु जो अंत तक दृढ रहेगा, वही बचेगा.
23. When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. Truly I tell you, you will not finish going through the towns of Israel before the Son of Man comes.
२३. जब तुम्हें एक स्थान पर पकड़ने लगें, भाग कर कहीं और चले जाओ. सच कहता हूँ, तुम्हारे द्वारा इस्राइल के सभी नगरों में जाने से पूर्व ही मसीहा आ जाएगा.
25. It is enough for students to be like their teachers, and servants like their masters. If the head of the house has been called Beelzebul, how much more the members of his household!
२५. शिष्य अपने गुरु के सामान तथा दास अपने स्वामी के सामान हो जाएँ तो यह उनके लिए पर्याप्त है. यदि घर के मुखिया को बील्ज़ेबुब कहा जाता है तो अन्य सदस्य कैसे होंगे!
Ba'al Zebul was a deity of pre christian times and literally means 'Lord of high places' or a 'High lord'. He was considered a deity in cities of Philistine. Later on the Christian texts have derogated it into Beelzebub - 'lord of the flies' and recorded it into their texts as 'Satan'. 
बाल ज़ेबुल (उच्च देवता) नामक देवता की अराधना फिलस्तीन के नगरों में की जाती थी. बाइबल के विशेषज्ञ थोमस चेनी का मत है कि ईसाईयों ने इसे भ्रष्ट करके बील्ज़ेबुब अर्थात 'मक्खियों का देवता' नाम दे कर 'शैतान' बना दिया है.
26. “So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known. 
२६. "इसलिए उनसे भयभीत मत होना, क्योंकि ऐसा कुछ भी छिपा हुआ नहीं है जो प्रकाश में नहीं आएगा.
27. What I tell you in the dark, speak in the daylight; what is whispered in your ear, proclaim from the roofs.
२७. जो मैं तुम्हें अन्धकार में बताता हूँ, उसे दिन के प्रकाश में बताना; जो मैंने तुम्हारे कान में धीमे से कहा, उसे छत से चिल्ला कर कहना.
28. Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. 
२८. उनसे भयभीत मत होना जो शरीर की हत्या कर सकते हैं परन्तु आत्मा की नहीं. बल्कि, उस से भय करो जो नरक में शरीर एवं आत्मा दोनों का नाश कर सकता है.
Comment: What kind of 'loving God' has to terrorize people by his power to kill body and soul?
समीक्षा: क्या यह गौड है जो आतंकित करना चाहता है?
29. Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? Yet not one of them will fall to the ground outside your Father’s care.
२९. दो चिड़ियाँ एक पैसे की हैं, इस पर भी, एक भी चिड़िया तुम्हारे बाप की जानकारी के बिना नहीं मरती.
30. And even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. 
३०. यहाँ तक कि तुम्हारे सर का एक एक बाल भी गिना हुआ है.
31. So don’t be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.
३१. इसलिए निश्चिन्त रहो; तुम कई चिड़ियों से मूल्यवान हो.
32. “Whoever acknowledges me before others, I will also acknowledge before my Father in heaven.
३२. "जो सब के समक्ष मेरा आभारी होगा, मैं भी उसे स्वर्ग में अपने बाप के समक्ष स्वीकार करूंगा.
Comment: Is the creator of this limitless universe, God so narrow minded that he wants to be acknowldged?
समीक्षा: क्या इस अनंत ब्रहमांड का रचयिता इतनी संकुचित सोच वाला है कि वो अपने रचे हुए मनुष्यों से अपनी महानता की स्वीकृति चाहता है?
33. But whoever disowns me before others, I will disown before my Father in heaven.
३३. जो मुझे अन्यों के समक्ष अस्वीकार करेगा, मैं भी उसे स्वर्ग में अपने बाप के समक्ष अस्वीकार कर दूंगा.

VERSES 34 - 37 FLY IN THE FACE OF MISSIONARIES WHO ARE HELL BENT ON PROVING THAT 'JESUS' MEANS 'LOVE, PEACE AND MERCY'.
आगामी चार पंक्तियाँ ३४ - ३७ मिशनरियों के मुंह पर तमाचा हैं, जो आजकल यीशु को प्रेम, सद्भावना और करुणा की मूर्ती सिद्ध करने की चेष्टा में लगे रहते हैं.
 
34. “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. 
३४. "यह मत समझना कि मैं धरती पर शांति स्थापना के लिए आया हूँ. मैं शान्ति लेकर नहीं आया अपितु खड़ग (तलवार) लाया हूँ.
35. For I have come to turn “‘a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—
३५. मेरे आने का उद्देश्य है "पुत्र को पिता से लड़ाना, पुत्री को उसकी माता से लड़ाना, बहु को सास से लड़ाना.
36. a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’
३६. हर मनुष्य के शत्रु उसके अपने ही सम्बन्धी होंगे.
37. “Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. 
३७. जो भी अपने माता पिता को मुझ से अधिक प्रेम करेगा अथवा अपने बच्चों को मुझ से अधिक प्रेम करेगा वो मेरा चेला होने के योग्य नहीं है.
38. whoever does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.
३८. जो भी क्रॉस उठा कर मेरा कहा नहीं मानता, वो मेरा चेला नहीं है.
39.  Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.
३९. जिसे जीवन मिला है वो खो देगा, जो मेरे लिए अपना जीवन खोएगा, उसे जीवन मिलेगा.
40. “Anyone who welcomes you welcomes me, and anyone who welcomes me welcomes the one who sent me. 
४०. जो तुम्हारा स्वागत करता है, वो मेरा स्वागत करता है, जो मेरा स्वागत करता है वो उसका स्वागत करता है जिसने मुझे भेजा है.
41. Whoever welcomes a prophet as a prophet will receive a prophet’s reward, and whoever welcomes a righteous person as a righteous person will receive a righteous person’s reward. 
४१. जो मसीहा का स्वागत करता है उसे मसीहा से पुरूस्कार मिलेगा, और जो सज्जनों का स्वागत सज्जनों की भाँती करता है, उसे सज्जनों का पुरूस्कार प्राप्त होगा.
42. And if anyone gives even a cup of cold water to one of these little ones who is my disciple, truly I tell you, that person will certainly not lose their reward.”
४२. जो इन्हें एक प्याला शीतल जल भी पिलाएगा, ये मेरा वाक्य है की वह भी पुरूस्कार पायेगा.
हे इश्वर! इस गौड और इसके अनुयायिओं से हमारी एवं हमारे राष्ट्र की रक्षा करना.

With reference to line 25, where the demonization of a deity of Philistine, namely Ba'al Bezul at the hands of Church has been explained, the same process has been going on for Hindu deities also.
Check out such rubbish here, here and here.

Monday, August 29, 2011

IS CHRISTIAN GOD A JEALOUS MAN?

Compared to Vedic dharm, which is also called सनातन, वैदिक, हिन्दू, आर्य धर्म, the abrahamic religions (Judaism, Islam and Christianity) are nascent ideologies, barely a few centuries old. The same also reflects in the scriptures. In the vedic literature, the supreme being, variously called परमेश्वर, परमात्मा, प्रभु is said to be beyond human comprehension. Thus parameshwar परमेश्वर is beyond and far above base properties like anger, hatred or intolerance.
In stark comparison, the God described in Bible possesses all such human traits. Just a few decades ago, when Christian rule was predominant over the planet, the missionaries propagated their creed with the help of guns and governments. In those 19 centuries, they did not have to pretend that 'their God' is loving or merciful. The tactics used for conversions were Threats, Terror, Torture and Fraud. There was no need of sentences like 'Jesus loves you' or 'mercy of Jesus' or some such sugar coated phrases. One example would suffice, as noted by Mahatma Gandhi:
Only the other day a missionary descended on a famine area with money in his pocket, distributed it among the famine stricken, converted them to his fold, took charge of their temple, and demolished it. This is outrageous. (Harijan: November 5, 1937)
Roman and Greek civilizations were destroyed from within and without. Mayans, Incas, indigenous populations were decimated. In Australia. In Americas. In New Zealand. Millions were terminated. Hindus survived. 
After the end of second world war, the grip of colonialism loosened. Now the tactics had to be changed, thus the tone of missionaries changed but the wickedness is still the same.
The trick used on the Romans, first to secularize them and then to Christianize them, is being used on Hindu civilization with full force. The education system, the media and the NGO industry is rapidly secularizing Hindus. Very smartly. As a result, the youth, especially the urban youth has been turned into Zombies. Secular Zombies. And surprisingly, the Zombies are proud of being so. That is the power of propaganda. 
Anyway, let us meet the 'God', who is definitely very different from parameshwar. This extract is from Deuteronomy of Bible, chapter 13. It is a part of the old testament. 
Caution: Old testament is very much a part of Christianity. When confronted, some missionaries lie that it has been discarded. But then, crooks will always be crooks. Ain't it? One can check it out on numerous Christian sites like gospel.com or catholicwideweb or christianity.net.au. In fact 'Jesus' gives us the definite answer:
Jesus says “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not then smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (1st 5 books of the Bible) until everything is accomplished.” (Matt 5:17-18)
Now let us see the kind of 'God' mentioned in Bible and the 'laws' that Jesus and thus, missionaries, are talking about.

Deuteronomy 13:

1. If a prophet, or one who foretells by dreams, appears among you and announces to you a sign or wonder, 
१. यदि कोई भविष्य बताने वाला, अथवा सपनों के विषय में बताने वाला, तुम्हें किसी चमत्कार अथवा शकुन के सम्बन्ध में भविष्यवाणी करे
2. and if the sign or wonder spoken of takes place, and the prophet says, “Let us follow other gods” (gods you have not known) “and let us worship them,”
२. और वो सच हो जाए, इस पर यदि वो कहे, "चलो अन्य भगवान् की पूजा करते हैं" (ऐसे भगवान् जिन के सम्बन्ध में तुम्हें कोई ज्ञान नहीं है) "उनका अनुसरण करते हैं"
3. you must not listen to the words of that prophet or dreamer. The LORD your God is testing you to find out whether you love him with all your heart and with all your soul.
३. तुम उस भविष्य वक्ता की बात मत मानना. तुम्हारा लॉर्ड, तुम्हारा गौड तुम्हारी परीक्षा ले रहा है, ये जानने के लिए कि क्या तुम अपने यीशु को मन और आत्मा से प्रेम करते हो.
4. It is the LORD your God you must follow, and him you must revere. Keep his commands and obey him; serve him and hold fast to him.
४. तुम केवल अपने गौड यीशु को ही मानो. उसी के आदेशों का पालन करो; उसकी सेवा करो और उसी से चिपके रहो.
5. That prophet or dreamer must be put to death for inciting rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery. That prophet or dreamer tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.
५. उस भविष्य बताने वाले की हत्या करना आवश्यक है क्योंकि उसने तुम्हें अपने गौड यीशु के विरोध में भड़काया, जो गौड तुम्हें मिस्र की दासता से भरी भूमि से बचा कर लाया. उसने तुम्हें अपने गौड की इच्छा के विरुद्ध आचरण करने को कहा. तुम अपनों में से ऐसे बुरों का सफाया कर दो.
6. If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods that neither you nor your ancestors have known
६. यदि तुम्हारा सगा भाई, पुत्र, पुत्री, तुम्हारी प्रिय धर्मपत्नी अथवा तुम्हारा परम मित्र भी तुमसे किसी अन्य देवता की पूजा करने के लिए कहे "आओ हम अन्य देवता की पूजा करें"
7 . gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other)
७. उन देवताओं अथवा इश्वर की जिन्हें तुम्हारे आस पास के लोग पवित्र मानते हैं, वो विश्व के एक छोर से ले कर दुसरे छोर तक, तुम्हारे निकट हों अथवा दूर.
8. do not yield to them or listen to them. Show them no pity. Do not spare them or shield them.
८. उन की बातों में मत आना. तुम उन के प्रति कोई दया मत करना. उन्हें न तो छोड़ना और न ही रक्षा करना.
9. You must certainly put them to death. Your hand must be the first in putting them to death, and then the hands of all the people.
९. तुम्हें उनकी हत्या करनी ही है. इस से पूर्व कि कोई और उन्हें मारने के लिए हाथ उठाए, तुम्हारा हाथ उन्हें मारने के लिए उठ जाना चाहिए.
10. stone them to death, because they tried to turn you away from the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
१०. पत्थर मार मार कर उन्हें मार दो क्योंकि उन्होंने तुम्हें तुम्हारे गौड से पृथक होने को कहा, वो गौड जो तुम्हें दासता के स्थान मिस्र से निकाल कर लाया था.
11.Then all Israel will hear and be afraid, and no one among you will do such an evil thing again.
११. इस से सारा इस्राइल भयभीत हो जाएगा और कोई भी ऐसा करने का साहस नहीं करेगा.
12. If you hear it said about one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you to live in
१२. यदि किसी नगर में जो तुम्हें तुम्हारे गौड ने दिया है, तुम ऐसा सुनो कि
13. that troublemakers have arisen among you and have led the people of their town astray, saying, “Let us go and worship other gods” (gods you have not known),
१३. तुम में से कुछ लोग कह रहे हैं कि हम अन्य इश्वर की पूजा करें (जिन्हें तुम नहीं जानते)
14. then you must inquire, probe and investigate it thoroughly. And if it is true and it has been proved that this detestable thing has been done among you,
१४. तो तुम इस की जांच करो. और यदि ऐसा प्रतीत हो कि ये दुष्कृत्य तुम्हारे मध्य में किया गया है,
15. you must certainly put to the sword all who live in that town. You must destroy it completely, both its people and its livestock.
१५. तो तुम उस नगर के सभी निवासियों की हत्या कर देना. तुम उस नगर के निवासियों तथा पशुओं का सर्वनाश कर देना.
16. You are to gather all the plunder of the town into the middle of the public square and completely burn the town and all its plunder as a whole burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town is to remain a ruin forever, never to be rebuilt,
१६. उस नगर का सर्वस्व नगर के मुख्या स्थान पर एकत्रित कर के उसे पूर्ण रूप से जला कर भस्म कर देना. उस नगर को पूर्ण रूप से जला कर अपने गौड के लिए बलि चढ़ा देना. वो नगर सदा के लिए नष्ट कर देना, कभी पुनर्निर्माण न हो सके.
17. and none of the condemned things are to be found in your hands. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger, will show you mercy, and will have compassion on you. He will increase your numbers, as he promised on oath to your ancestors
१७.कोई भी नीच वास्तु तुम्हारे हाथ में न बचे. तभी लॉर्ड गौड का क्रोध शांत होगा और वो तुम पर दया करेगा. तुम्हारे पूर्वजों से किये प्रण के अनुसार वो तुम्हारी संख्या में वृद्धि करेगा,
18. because you obey the LORD your God by keeping all his commands that I am giving you today and doing what is right in his eyes.
१८. क्योंकि तुम उसके आदेशों की पालना करते हो और वही करते हो जो गौड को उचित लगता है.

The 'God' becomes angry if anyone worships other Gods.
Is it called jealousy or inferiority complex?
And the extent of the anger is even more striking. Kill 'all who live', even animals.
Is it called intolerance?
The 'mercy' and 'compassion' are also conditional. They are reserved for killers and destroyers.

Tuesday, August 16, 2011

DISINTEGRATING COUNTRY FROM WITHIN

Earlier it was the immense wealth of our motherland which attracted all kinds of marauders which resulted in ravishing of our wealth, subjugation of our populace and rapine of our women folk.
Our land is so bestowed with natural resources that all the major corporate giants on the globe want a share of this natural bounty, be it coal reserves, iron, aluminium, maganese or other minerals. The visible result of this phenomenon can be seen in the struggles by the local population against giant corporations like Posco and Vedanta.
Apart from the natural resources, another mouth watering avenue in our country is the teeming millions. For the multinational companies, the billion plus population means that many consumers for their products. A virtually never ending market. Billions of dollars. It is like a dream for capitalists, which they want never to end. Who would?
But then they have to ensure that this dream does not vanish into thin air. They know that the day the collective psyche of the nation realizes its worth, they will shut the doors for these vultures and strengthen their internal economy, instead of acting as a 'market' for foreign forces. That is the force of Nationalism.
The Britishers knew this when they were directly ruling us (today US and UK are ruling us indirectly). When Tilak, Bhagat Singh, Savarkar, Gandhi and Neta ji Subhash Chandra Bose wanted poorn swaraj, they also knew this. 
That is why the British handed over the reigns to a thoroughly westernized Nehru, who continued with the same policies which favored the alien forces. But the cruel joke played out was that we have gained freedom. In fact, it was a change of faces but everything remained the same. The nation was lulled into a false sense of freedom and swaraj. 
The imperialistic forces still have the same factor to fear. Nationalism. The day we will realize the strength of Unity and Nationalism, we will become the super power in every respect. The conglomeration of all the vested forces still know that nationalism will be their undoing.
That is why they have decided to create an atmosphere in which nationalistic thinking should be discouraged. This conspiracy is being played, mainly at psychological level. Control the mind, control the people. The tools are media, NGOs, amoral intellectuals and, of course, corrupt government.
A large number of persons with longish degrees at the end of their name plates or with a foreign degree to their names are at the forefront of a campaign with the objective of maligning the word 'nationalism'. One can call them intellectual mercenaries, intellectual pimps or intellectual whores, depending upon his/her sensitivities. In this post I will talk about one such person. Angana Chatterji.
Most of the citizens do not know this woman in her forties, who is an associate professor of California Institute of Integral Studies. The institute was set up to bridge the gap between east and west by an Indian philosopher and educator Haridas Chaudhri, who had been chosen by Sri Aurbindo. promote the vision and thoughts of Sri Aurbindo. Ironically, Angana Chatterji is using the same institute to do exactly the opposite. Let us see how.
When Ghulam Nabi Fai was arrested by FBI for being an ISI agent, some newspapers asked Angana about her links with him.
Let us hear out her clarification, as published in DNA newspaper on 15/08/2011:
“Had I known that the ISI was in directing his actions, I would never have had anything to do with him,” she said. She had “assumed that if congresspersons and senators were willing to associate with him, he must be a legitimate lobbyist in Washington.”
May be she has been fooled by slick talking Fai. Let us see if the agenda of Pakistan's ISI has the same agenda as this professor.
For that let us look at her Bio-data.
Well, she must be a very naive woman, who proudly mentions in her Bio-data that
She is currently working on issues of militarized governance, gender and identity, and self-determination in Indian-administered Kashmir
One of the lines that ISI is working upon.
Isn't she a real patriot. Like many of Antonia's pet poodles, she also wants our country to forgo Kashmir to Terrorists. The same terrorists who have raped and killed lakhs of Hindus. 
Look a little ahead in her Bio data and one notices that she has worked for ISI, not the Pakistani one. This one is 'Indian Social Institute'.
Nice sounding name, ain't it?
Well, it is an institute run by Jesuits. All the members of its governing body are of Abrahamic religion. Incidentally, it is the same institute, which was linked to the campaign for Binayak Sen.
No wonder that the Christian oranizations are celebrating the recognition of ISI which:
Keeping its Christian inspiration and following the Social teaching of the Catholic Church ISI is known for its pluralism...The recent spread of Hindu fundamentalism and discrimination against minorities led the ISI to undertake research and publish works
Well, keeping in with the trend being promoted by Antonia, in the scheme of pluralism, when Hindus are mentioned, it is always Hindu fundamentalism.
Oh! Did I forget 'Hindu Nationalists'? 
We will hear a lot of this. In her article, she boasts of 'How we made US deny visa to Modi', she talks about nationalists:
Hindu nationalists perpetrated an event distinctive in the movements malevolent reach for a Hindu state. In 16 of Gujarat's 24 districts, 2,000 people, mostly Muslims
Notice that like other such 'liberals', she has liberally increased the number of Muslim victims from 794 (UPA govt offical release) to 2,000 and 'liberally' forgotten the Hindu women and children charred to death by Muslim mob and also missed the 294 (UPA govt released number) Hindus killed in the riots.
Also notice the choice of words: HINDU NATIONALISTS. 
The terminology has been cleverly designed. Whenever a Hindu will talk about nationalism, his noble cause will be denounced as 'Hindu Nationalism'. That is how noble is twisted to be something not to be appreciated. They are hoping that with passage of time, the coordinated chorus will make nationalism a dirty word. 
Another aspect is that Islam is Arabia centric, Christianity is Vatican, Rome or US centric, therefore it is only Hindus who feel the pain of creating Pakistan and Bangladesh out of our motherland by alien creeds. Hindus do not look out of their country to get spiritual or religious centers, therefore denigrating 'Hindu nationalism' serves the purpose of the proselytizing creeds. 
Notice that she has the acumen to influence the most shrewd govt of the world to deny visa to Modi but is naive when it comes to those people who have been caught as ISI agents. 
Also notice the pleasure she takes in being a part of the virulent campaign which succeeded in denying visa to an elected Chief Minister of our nation. 

Her activities relating to Kashmir were not limited to interacting with ISI in seminars only, she was a part of numerous organizations working for internationalization of the issue. Surprisingly, she has very curious justification for focusing only on India occupied Kashmir. According to her organization called International People's tribunal on Human rights and Justice in Indian Administered Kashmir:
 It is crucial to highlight the experience of militarization in Indian-administered Kashmir. A large body of scholarly work suggests that its structure and institutionalization over the last 60 years, has produced extreme consequences in the region. Further, these consequences have been exacerbated by repression of the struggles for self-determination of Kashmiri peoples, and the policies of realpolitik engaged by the international community. What are the present conditions that result from this history?
Exactly the line of the terrorists and ISI. And she says she did not know Fai's ISI connections. Like a retired Justice Rajinder Jaichand Sachar, Govt appointed interlocutor Padgaonkar and former editor of well known papers, Gautam Navalakha claim.

Also notice her concern for Kashmiri people, by which she does not mean the Budhists, Hindus or even Shia Muslims. But her concern vanishes for Hindus altogether.
Contrast her concern with the murder of 84 year old Swami Laxmananand in Orissa. In this article, written by her in Tehelka, she spews her venom on Hindu Nationalism:
HINDUTVA'S PRODUCTION of culture and nation is often marked by savagery. On 23 August 2008, Lakshmanananda Saraswati, Orissa's Hindu nationalist icon...
Notice the contrast. Islamic terrorists in Kashmir have right to self determination but Hindutva has savagery. To be honest with her, she has shown a little bit of restraint in this article. 
Like other such liberals, she is another one who appeared before USCIRF, an American government agency to tarnish the image of our country. In her deposition to USCIRF, she has used the words 'a male Hindu proselytizer' for slain Swami Lakshmanand Sarswati. 
She has been really liberal with her hatred for Hindus and has used terms like:
The Tribunal was targeted by Hindutva, Hindu extremist, activists
A little down the line, in same deposition, she says:
I would also like to clarify that I am a secular person of Hindu descent and that my taking a position opposing Hindutva and Hindu nationalism is in no way in opposition to Hindus or Hinduism.
We seem to be having a case of a full blown female Jaichand.
Remember John Dayal? Who is always hankering for reservations for dalit Christians. He is a close aide of Angana. For these rascals, conversions of Hindus are acceptable but when they want to convert back, it starts sticking up with these seculars. Feel her pain here:
It is Saraswati who pioneered the Hinduisation of Kandhamal since 1969. Activists targeted Adivasis, Dalits, Christians and Muslims through socio-economic boycotts and forced conversions (named ‘re’conversion, presupposing Adivasis and Dalits as ‘originally’ Hindus).
Remember how Britishers first started splitting the Hindu society by creating different schisms like Sikhs and Animists. Mahatma Gandhi kept on protesting this fragmentation of Hindu society but the Britishers persisted. They had a very clear objective:
These aborigines by their mind and conscience offer a surface like clean paper, upon which the missionaries may make a mark...if they are attached, as they rapidly may be, to Christianity, they will form a nucleus round which British power and influence may gather
Sir Richard Temple, head of British administration of Bombay (Worshiping false Gods pp 84 by Arun Shourie)

Just replace British power to US power and you know the motives of the Johns and Anganas. She wants us to believe, like the Brits wanted that tribals or dalits are not Hindus.
Let us get back to Angana Chatterji. When it comes to Christian missionaries, her back flip is hilarious:
Christian leaders said that the church does not convert under duress or offer money in lieu of conversions. In the 1960s and 70s, when there was a thrust in conversions, Adivasis benefited through accessing health care, education and employment offered by Christian missionaries.
Aha! Church does not convert.
Her statement to a foreign body is actually the statement of Christian missionaries. 
Now, what about the social service by Hindus:
Conscription into Hindu activism is coordinated through political reform, propaganda/thought control, cultural and religious interventions, developmental/social service and charitable work, sectarian health care, unionisation and revisionist education. Hindu communalists have reportedly inaugurated various trusts and branches of national and international institutions in Orissa to aid fund-raising, including, reportedly, the Friends of Tribal Society, Samarpan Charitable Trust, Sookruti, Yasodha Sadan and Odisha International Centre.
Is that a chameleon? The change of color is pretty catchy. No?
She has even more concerns. One of them is about the removal of ban on cow slaughter. The reason is also equally sinister:
The Orissa Prevention of Cow Slaughter Act, 1960 should also be repealed. It is utilised to target livelihood practices of economically disenfranchised groups, Adivasis, Dalits, Muslims, who engage in cattle trade and cow slaughter.
Now, if you want power and money from Christians, you have to speak their words. If the above mentioned are not enough, then there is more:
The draconian Orissa Freedom of Religion Act (OFRA), 1967, must be repealed...consenting converts to Christianity are repeatedly charged under OFRA
The bottom line is that the MNCs are eyeing the natural resources but the biggest corporate of the world, Church, is after our human resources. It always boils down to conversions.

Those are some of the activities of this Marxist. If one thinks them benign enough, then that would be a mistake. She is one of the most prominent faces in American circles and has been making considerable effect for the detriment of our nation's cause. 

And she is not the only one.

Thursday, August 4, 2011

SAVE MUSLIMS FROM THEIR LEADERS

The regressive Muslim leaders make every effort to keep the ordinary members of their community as depraved and deprived as possible. The latest that has come from these Mullahs and Maulavis fits the divisive nature that they inherently possess.
According to 'Times of India' and other media, they are opposing the 'Right to Education' and 'Direct Taxation Code' laws.
Now, every one has right to oppose any bill or law that the politicians try to thrust down our throats. The reasons that they are stating for the opposition look like they are still living in the 7th century stone age of Arabia.
The major reason to oppose RTE is that if the child will go to school, he will not get time to go to Madrasa.
Bravo Mian ji, Bravo.

Like most of the citizens, I also used to think that Madrasas give some good moral education. It was when I read these books for myself that I was shocked.

The standard curriculum of Madrasa emphasizes the study of Quran, Hadis and Biography of Mohammad, the Islamic prophet. The aim of Madrasa is to make every Muslim a follower of Mohammad, as realistically as possible.

What kind of citizens will be produced has been analyzed by late Shri Sita Ram Goel, one of the most honest and respected historians of our times in his book 'Muslim Separatism'.
He has pin pointed the cause of partition of our mother land. His words are equally valid even today.
To start with, we want to take up what we consider to be its most important contribution, namely, the unravelling of two behaviour patterns - Muslim and National - which collaborated closely for years and precipitated Partition in the final round. The Muslim behaviour pattern was characterized by acrimony, accusations, complaints, demands, denunciations, and street riots. The National behaviour pattern, on the other hand, was characterized by acquiescence, assent, cajolery, concessions, cowardice, self-reproach, and surrender.
The two behaviour patterns have remained intact and are still operative. That is why the Partition in 1947 cannot and should not be considered a closed chapter. Moreover, the two behaviour patterns provide the key not only to a correct understanding of the complexities of present-day politics in India, but also to an anticipation of political developments in days to come.
How prophetic his words are. The Muslim leadership will never let the community progress, in outlook or thinking. As long as the ordinary Muslim is kept in the theological lock up of these Mullahs and Maulvis, the problem will get worse.
Of course, Kamal Farooqui and his likes will always play the divisive games, as long as they are being patronized by Antonia.

Saturday, July 30, 2011

SONIA'S INQUISITORS - ABU SALEH SHAREEF with RAJINDER SACHAR

 First of all, let me admit that I consider every citizen of our country, 
  • who tries to raise the issue of Kashmir at international forums 
  • who says that India should talk to Pakistan on Kashmir
  • who says that the present Kashmiri population (which killed, raped and expelled Kashmiri Hindus) has right to self determination
  • who says that security forces should be removed from Kashmir
  • who says that Kashmiri protestors are peace loving
as a traitor of the country.
One such person is Rajinder Sachar, who fits the bill.
 
RAJINDER 'JAICHAND' SACHAR

Yes. The same Sachar, who is Justice Rajinder Sachar, the author of 'Sachar report'.

With the arrest of Ghulam Nabi Fai by America's FBI, we have come to know that Rajinder Sachar, the man behind the doctored report called 'Sachar report' had been hobnobbing with Fai. Interestingly Fai has been arrested for being the front man of Pakistan's ISI. 
That should tell us the extent upto which our national security has been compromised and the kind of persons who are in positions to dictate our national policies.
Although he can not be tried for treason or sedition because the plea he will take is 'I did not know his ISI  links', as he has already told the media.What is worth pondering is that he has been a judge of our courts. Can such a guy be so naive or gullible?
Analyze his statement:
He also claimed that it was due to his presence, Fai was not able to pursue anti-India agenda during the meet and the resolution adopted during the meet was changed.
Huh. 
His presence forced Fai to change his 'anti India' stance!
Let us take his statement at face value.
What conclusion can we draw. One, that our 'justice Sachar' learnt about his anti India stance. If he knew it before hand, he was under no compulsion to go and provide legitimacy to his anti national activities. Two, if he had come to know his stance during the conference, then did he take necessary steps to inform the security agencies or used his connections in the government and with Antonia aka Sonia G to put an end to such nefarious activities.
Now we know that he did neither of them. He enjoyed the hospitality of ISI, made the right kind of noises, basked in the glory of being invited by white men, returned and slept. 
That was in 2008.
Then he woke up and was again at his conference in 2010.
A gap of three years. During which the ISI agent had still been pursuing the same Pak centric and Anti India agenda. Our 'justice' still went there.
So, he is trying to befool ordinary citizens, who do not suspect such high level of indiscretion. 
If some poor person falls for the bait of free travel to America and stay in plush hotels, we can attribute it to a hunger for money. But this guy is a retired judge. Not a poor soul. So, let us not fall for the crap that it was attraction of free foreign junket.
The FBI says that ISI decided the guest list of gatherings organized by Fai. That should lead us to the question; Why did he zero in on the likes of Rajinder Sachar? Why not some leader of Kashmiri Pandits?
The answer is simple; ISI knows who will talk on the lines that they want. ISI has the plans for disintegration of our country. For this aim, they need 'ghar ke bhedi' or 'Jaichands'. Unfortunately, we have plenty of them. Handpicked by Antonia. For the top posts.

ABU SALEH SHAREEF

When in March of 2005, the UPA government issued a notification regarding setting up of a seven member committee for the purpose of preparing a report on social, economic and educational status of Muslims, it was a major step against the secular principles which UPA spokesmen keep on hollering about. It was a blatantly communal move to appease one community. The member secretary of this committee was Abu Saleh Shareef. A member of NAC, which has devised the divisive 'prevention of communal and targeted violence bill'.
The draconian provisions of the bill can be read in the post titled Inquisition comes knocking, again, to get a better idea. This is in continuation to the discussion about the kind of persons behind the divisive 'prevention of communal and targeted violence bill'. We have already discussed John Dayal, Ram Puniyani, Hosbet Suresh, Kamal Farooqui, Teesta Setalvad, Harsh Mander, Syed Shahaubuddin and Shabnam Hashmi. In this post we will talk about Syed Shahabuddin also known as 'Shah Bano Syed'. The reason of this name is explained in the post.

No prizes for guessing the leanings of this man also.

In his capacity of being member secretary of 'Sachar committee', he had demanded from the Army, the percentage of Muslims employed with the force. The response of the Army is worth reading:
“The Indian Army has an apolitical character in which people from all communities and regions work together without any distinction on the basis of caste, creed and religion. The nationalistic representation and all India character of the Army has been most admirable and acknowledged by all sections of Indian society. That’s why all segments of the country have appreciated Army’s contribution in the Nation. The most important factor for achievement by the Indian Army is because of its group cohesion and camaraderie without any concern for caste, creed or religion.”

“Therefore, data relating to various castes or religions is not maintained in the Army and it will also not be proper to collect or collate such data.”
Befittingly, this reply was addressed to this member secretary of the committee, Abu Saleh Shareef. 
For someone with some self respect, that should have shaken him up. But then army is no match for such home grown adversary, who have the morals of an alley cat and appear to be 'one of our own'. The correspondence was leaked to the media and an impression was created that the army is a biased institution. 
That is how the present regime is out to damage the moral of our security agencies.
Anyway, the report was submitted in 2006, in less then two years. The data was doctored to show that the Muslims were backwards even in comparison to SC and STs.
Once the report had been drummed up, now it was time for the next step. Subverting the constitution and asserting the demand for religion based reservations.
In 2010, Syed Shahabuddin conducted a gathering of leading Muslims. Abu Saleh Shareef was on the dias. His statement was:
We have to make concrete and constant efforts to turn our demand of reservation for Muslims into reality. Today Muslims are one of the most backward and unprivileged sections of our country as clearly noted by Sachar Committee report. Hence, it is the duty of government to provide reservations to Muslims
See.
The perfect crime.
Make so much of noise that lie is accepted as truth. Of course, equally subservient media is there to help spread the canard.
All in the name of a 'social' and 'secular' cause. One look at the government data is sufficient to prove that the poor Hindus have been deliberately ignored on all major counts to show that they are better placed then Muslims.

Like our two guys, the church fathers were also very inventive in their approach. One example is the FIRE TORTURE which was inflicted on the 'heretics'.
See the two holes in the back of the chair. The 'heretic's' feet were passed through the holes to immobilize him. Then animal fat was rubbed on his feet and the feet were set on fire. In the name of religion. So much for the religions of love.


 


Still they want us to believe the non sense that 'ALL RELIGIONS ARE SAME'.